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In Conversation with Iowa Proto-Rockers Bernie Fogel and Russ Morgan
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In Conversation with Iowa Proto-Rockers Bernie Fogel and Russ Morgan

On The Road To Teen Town dept.

Dartanyan interviews 60’s era guitar heros Bernie Fogel, Russ Morgan and master drummer James “Jimmy” Brown. These guys started bands during the “post Elvis - Pre-Beatles” era. Morgan founded The Princemen, while drummer Jimmy Brown and Fogel began as Jimmy Brown and the Rhythm Masters.

They discuss their early influences, encounters with established great artists, and how Des Moines’ young musicians and singers black and white, male and female created a scene rich with talent.

The middle to late 1960’s youth music scene in Des Moines which I experienced was vibrant, rocking and integrated with both men and women musicians and singers making their presence felt.

Enjoy the first 15-minutes of an hour long interview with Russ and Bernie. Later episodes will feature drummer Jimmy Brown’s extended interview. Jimmy, while not related to Godfather of Soul James Brown was the real deal as a beatmaker. You can hear Jimmy describing his style here.

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[For those reading the transcript some clarifications]:

Speaker 1 - Russ Morgan

Speaker 2 - Bernie Fogel

Speaker 3 - Dartanyan

Intro and Outro music : You Can’t Sit Down 1964 hit by guitarist Phil Upchurch

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Jody Gifford: Benign Inspiration, West Des Moines
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Alison McGaughey, The Inquisitive Quad Citizen, Quad Cities
Kurt Meyer: Showing Up, St. Ansgar
Vicki Minor, Relatively Minor, Winterset
Wini Moranville: Wini’s Food Stories, Des Moines
Jeff Morrison: Between Two Rivers, Cedar Rapids
Kyle Munson: Kyle Munson’s Main Street, Des Moines
Jane Nguyen: The Asian Iowan, West Des Moines
John Naughton: My Life, in Color, Des Moines
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Barry Piatt: Piatt on Politics Behind the Curtain, Washington, D.C.
Dave Price: Dave Price’s Perspective, Des Moines
Steve Semken, The Pulse of a Heartland Publisher, North Liberty
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Larry Stone: Listening to the Land, Elkader
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